Just to confirm...

Jim Downey's picture

...what we all know, here's the latest from Gallup:

If Your Party Nominated A Generally Well-Qualified Candidate For WH '08 Who Was ___, Would You Vote For That Person?

  Yes No
Catholic 95% 4%
Black 94 5
Jewish 92 7
A woman 88 11
Hispanic 87 12
Mormon 72 24
Married for third time 67 30
72 years old 57 42
A homosexual 55 43
An atheist 45 53

Yup. Bottom of the list.

Now, someone tell me again how we're such a threat to the religious.

Jim Downey

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JJR's picture

other left-out minorities

I bet atheists as a whole would still beat out self-described "Communist" or "Socialist" candidates.

What would be interesting is trying to convince someone like Sam Harris to run for office. Not that he'd have a prayer of winning mind you (no pun intended), just that he could raise awareness and get people talking about things like "no religious tests for office" that the Founding Fathers intended, etc, 1st Amendment issues in general, etc. Maybe the Libertarians could nominate him for a senate run or something. I don't always agree with Harris on his whole foreign policy shtick, but he strikes me as forceful and eloquent, at least in print, when going after the "American Taliban" of Far Right Xtians.

He might even stand a chance in a Republican primary if he could poll enough libertarian-minded business conservatives behind him. Democrats would be WAY too gun shy to tap someone like Harris to run, sad as I am to say that. Godless and Democrat is the kiss of death in the popular wisdom of the powers that be.

But just once I'd like to see a public atheist like Harris run and call all these bastards on their bullshit...really pin them down and ask "do you really believe that crazy sh*t you're spoutin'?"
or "you're a Christian, eh, senator? well what do you think about (random but patently offensive biblical quote)? ==does THAT guide your politics?"

That'd be a hoot to watch, even if he only got 3% of the vote. Where's Robert Green Ingersoll for the 21st century...

Cat's picture

I reitterate

Where are the wiccans in this pole? Hell where are any of the non-judean religions? Sorry but I refuse to believe that we are the least popular minority when athiests are the only one of the less popular minorities mentioned (say, where'd those muslims go anyway?).

So, only 88% of people would vote for a woman, but 94% of people will vote for a black? Obviously black opression isn't nearly as widespread as certain people believe.

Anonymous User's picture

Race

One wonders just who comprises the 5% that wouldn't vote for a black person.

Jim Downey's picture

I live in Missouri...

...I don't wonder at all.

Jim Downey

"Sometimes I think we're alone. Sometimes I think we're not. In either case, the thought is staggering."
- R. Buckminster Fuller

Alon Levy's picture

It's way more than 5%

People say they'd vote for a black person because they don't want to look like unreconstructed racists, but when push comes to shove, they won't actually vote for blacks. On my own place, SLC gave the example of Douglas Wilder, who, accordingly to Wikipedia,

had a comfortable lead in the last polls before election. The unexpected closeness of the election, while likely due in part to the traditionally strong get out the vote efforts of Republicans, has also been observed in other elections involving African Americans and other minority candidates. Called the "Bradley Effect", it entails white voters being more likely to tell pollsters that they will support a candidate than to actually vote for them. There are two different, but not mutually exclusive, explanations commonly given: the first, that some white voters who otherwise would vote for a candidate decide that they cannot do so because of the candidate's race; the second, that some white voters feel obligated to say that they will support the minority candidate in order not to appear racially insensitive.

Atheists are a minority group it's okay to hate, whence the 45% figure. It's likely far higher for blacks, but still lower than 94%.

trailrider's picture

Multiculturalism

A Black Jewish Catholic woman could kick ass.

Thameron's picture

On the bright side

We beat out the gays by a full 10%. That must be worth something. Of course if you are a gay atheist you can have the best/worst of both worlds.

Jim Downey's picture

OK...

...I couldn't get the numbers to neatly line up, but I think you can still see what it means.

Jim Downey

"Sometimes I think we're alone. Sometimes I think we're not. In either case, the thought is staggering."
- R. Buckminster Fuller

No More Mr. Nice Guy's picture

Threatening atheists

You need to have align="right" in the tables rather than align="left". Sorry, that's the geek in me coming out. Anyway, as to why religionists are so threatened by atheists, I can't help thinking that a lot of them are insecure in their faith, but they want to get into heaven so they silence the voice in their heads that tells them a lot of what they believe is garbage. But then they see atheists living happy, successful lives without living in constant fear of some vengeful sky-daddy waiting to throw them into the lake o' fire. Atheists can skip church, have sex before marriage, eat steak on Friday etc. and not have to worry about divine retribution. I think this fosters resentment among religionists which they translate into hatred and mistrust in order to silence their own doubts.

- No More Mr. Nice Guy!

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  Yes No
Catholic 95 4
Black 94 5
Jewish 92 7
A woman 88 11
Hispanic 87 12
Mormon 72 24
Married for third time 67 30
72 years old 57 42
A homosexual 55 43
An atheist 45 53

--
"Ponies are atheists, you know, technically."
- Me

No More Mr. Nice Guy's picture

Wow, that's neat!

I bow in recognition of your superior geekitude.

- No More Mr. Nice Guy!

Jim Downey's picture

Ayup.

Sorry, that's the geek in me coming out.

Grumblegrumblegumble...damned dirty atheists...

Yeah, I concur that a lot of what we see is insecurity and a bit of backlash due to it, even if that doesn't rise to the level of conscious thought in those who feel that way. Hence also the eagerness with which many religionists (particularly of the more repressed variety) feel they must condemn us or even initiate violence against us. People just do not like to be threatened with the truth.

Jim Downey, who still needs to figure out his good-evil alignment, let alone this whole right-left thing...

"Sometimes I think we're alone. Sometimes I think we're not. In either case, the thought is staggering."
- R. Buckminster Fuller

Brent Rasmussen's picture

Damn Dirty Atheists Can't Even line Up Columns...

I couldn't get the numbers to neatly line up,

You're welcome. Hehehe...

Jim Downey's picture

Hey, I took a bath last week...

*sigh* My computer illiteracy continues to embarrass. Good thing I have a sense of humor...

Um, thanks, Brent.

Jim Downey

"Sometimes I think we're alone. Sometimes I think we're not. In either case, the thought is staggering."
- R. Buckminster Fuller

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