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(Info area) Well I know from him(my son) what happened and many others , Mikes site and papers.
(Info area states 87 members of Christian group I’m no genius) They were a public high school choral class really 3 classes, in town for 5 days for a competition, and they won the gold for dance.the 75 kids were made up of Jews, Hindus, Muslums, Christians and mostly mormens. The big hoop la that made world news was all about. Them crazy Jesus freaks.
(ok posted what )Group of 87 Christians. When he knew that night who they were and talk to an administer from the school the next day. You really know nothing more then the clip? You did not read any things on this ?
No I’m not saying Mike is evil or bad, I would say unscrupouls and sinister. I bet he is great in very many ways. (Endangering) Danger no although the kids are well versed in profanity. The public school laws of California does not allow a teacher to take kids to a show like that, with out a consent form signed first .I see no one can seem to understand this ,Yes the teacher and chaperones blew it big time taking the kids there. Maybe they should be killed.
Waterman was very wrong, the other walking out, not one bit wrong .And Mike was very wrong for making this a Christian thing. Hope your starting to get it now, you can read everything I have said all over the blogs. Well I only found one place that told about them trying to leave before Mike even came on stage. As soon as they heard turn of your fucking cell phone deal. stage manger said no can't hold the show .
Hope your starting to get it .
Thanks

I can't help thinking what would happen if 87 actors went to their church, and at the high point of the sermon, all got up and stalked out, en masse, while one of them strode up to the pulpit and poured a glass of water on the Bible?

They'd probably call the cops and arrests would be made for a hate crime.

Daisey (the monologist) managed to track down the people who walked out of his performance last week, and his write up of this is worth taking a look at. In particular, he relates talking with the man who poured the water over his notes, and here is the best part:

We have been talking for quite some time, making progress, when I mention offhandedly in response to something that I had been raised Catholic.

At this, he makes this little sound: "oh!" It's a tiny exclamation, upward-inflected. I hear that sound, and my heart sinks.

It's a sound of surprise he makes, and of recognition. Of fellowship. And immediately, everything he says is the same, but it is surrounded with a superstructure of scripture--there are supporting arguments from Jesus, the apostles, the whole nine yards. His cadence and language is entirely different, because now he is drawing on over two thousand years of religious writing to enfold and magnify his arguments.

For the first time in the conversation, in my heart, I am furious.

What was I before that moment? I thought we were trying to speak to one another and I was honest with you--but this is your real face, and I only earn the right to see it if I say the right password and get let into your club.

Who was I before? Was I nobody? Was I simply a *liberal*, the word with the hook on the end of it? A dirty, pornographic artist? A purveyor of filth?

No. It's worse than that, worse than labels. I know the truth. I was no one. I was no one to you, not a real person at all--I wasn't real when you destroyed my work, and until the moment I said the magic word I wasn't real. When he made that sound, he betrayed his heart and finally spoke the truth, and I could see him fully. Now I know him, and now he has no power over me.

Read the whole thing.

Jim Downey

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That was an assault and he had every right to defend himself.

I'm pretty sure that no one has been killed by having water poured on their desk in front of them. Granted, the guy doing the damage was an asshole, and there might be the possibility of going after something for property damage, but to paint this as some sort of physical, vicious assault on his body is simply ludicrous.

Such simple, knee-jerk responses make us atheists look as bad as those oppressive theists against whom we contend.

Additionally, it looks from the video like only one person did anything destructive. One out of, what, eighty seven? The other eighty-six did the right thing: they disagreed with it and they left. Good for them (even though I think they are silly for doing so). One person engaging in this act hardly constitutes a mob gone wild.

Responding to an act of property damage with personal assault? That's not how you keep the moral high-ground. I don't know how self-defense works in the US, but in Canada you can't escalate the level of force like that. Sean Connery's speech about the "Chicago Way" isn't good legal advice. As long as the assailant doesn't move to interfere with your person, you can't interfere with theirs.

Let them keep viciousness as their tool, not ours.

I think Mr. Daisy reacted perfectly, he confronted his attackers assertively, but with the correct level of reasonable indignation, (which made them run away) and then regained his connection with the audience. He masterfully turned the incident to his advantage. You can bet the message his audience will take home after the show will have nothing to do with what the mob wanted to convey, and everything to do with what Mike Daisy said after the occurrence. A perfect example of a professional artist not giving a critic the last word.

Intelligence, charm and class. Those should be our tools.

Well done, Mr. Daisy.

so caught up in the reflexive, i.e., non-thinking, justice of their perceived cause. Better not to curl up and pretend it never happened. Better to use it as material.

"You better start giving me some inner peace before I mop the floor with you." - Homer S.

or

"Pinky, you excel at random." - the Brain

The speaker should have grabbed the arm of that fucking little puke and snapped his elbow ninety degrees backwards over the edge of the table. That was an assault and he had every right to defend himself. It's about time these assholes get taught that they don't own the world and that if they want to be part of society they had better learn how to be polite.