Who thought this up???

Jim Downey's picture

Via MeFi, word of the self-made mummies of Japan:

For three years the priests would eat a special diet consisting only of nuts and seeds, while taking part in a regimen of rigorous physical activity that stripped them of their body fat. They then ate only bark and roots for another three years and began drinking a poisonous tea made from the sap of the Urushi tree, which contains Urushiol (same stuff that makes poison ivy), normally used to lacquer bowls. This caused vomiting and a rapid loss of bodily fluids. Finally, a self-mummifying monk would lock himself in a stone tomb barely larger than his body, where he would not move from the lotus position. His only connection to the outside world was an air tube and a bell. Each day he rang a bell to let those outside know that he was still alive. When the bell stopped ringing, the tube was removed and the tomb sealed.

Amazing the lengths that people will go to in the name of religion. But what I want to know is, who the hell thought this up??? I mean, did a bunch of these Shugendo monks sit around discussing who could be more of an ascetic kook, until someone boasted "Well, hey, I can not *only* starve myself to death, but I can actually turn my body into a mummy! Beat that, suckers!"

And how did they come up with this regimen which would lead to mummification? Like Behe's 'irreducible complexity', I have a hard time seeing how such a process would evolve from other things the monks might be doing. Does this mean that there is some Buddhist Intelligent Designer who imparted this knowledge unto the monks, saying "here's the most excruiating and prolonged way to die I can come up with, but see, it results in mummification. Maybe."?

Inquiring minds want to know.

Jim Downey

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Hank Fox's picture

Heh

It's a very small sect known by some as Schrodinger's Monks. As long as the box remains closed, you're neither alive nor dead -- quasi-immortality.

Jim Downey's picture

"Schrodinger's Monks"...

...would be a great name for a rock band. Just sayin'.

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Kilgore Trout's picture

Quasi-Immortal....

That does have a nice ring to it. Unless you meant the name of the monks, that would be a joke few people would get.

Cat's picture

Oh, I've heard of this

It was in an episode of InuYasha. In the episode they called these Living Buddhas, supposedly they're suppose to ring the bell every so often to let outsiders know they're still alive so it's not time to open the box yet. Supposedly this was a way of making yourself immortal, since your body would stop aging if it were mummified (not too different from the Ancient Egyptian mentality really).

Rather silly actually. Although you can picture hanging a dried monk up for luck (instead of a dried lizard or cow's skull).

Thameron's picture

This immortality

If you get an immortality of deprivation and entombment I think I'd opt for oblivion.

Cat's picture

sucks

1) The deprivation and entombment is only while you're becoming immortal. After you've mummified you're taken out and put in a shrine. You even get offerings.

2) Immortality inherently sucks. No sane person would want it.

3) This practice serves to reassure the regular people that they're being protected. It's not too different from a 4 leaf clover or lucky rabbit's foot (the only difference is the unfortunate sacrifice happens to be human, and has a choice about being a sacrifice).

Hank Fox's picture

Huh?

2) Immortality inherently sucks. No sane person would want it.

How do you get THAT??

RickU's picture

I know

I think that I know where she's coming from. I'd want to be immortal, but only if I could also choose when to end my existance.

Anonymous User's picture

Can you imagine getting, oh,

Can you imagine getting, oh, 5 1/2 years into the thing and just blowing it all on a cheeseburger, fries, and a shake? Have to start the crappy diet all over again.

Dirk Diggler's picture

David Blaine

Who thought this up?

David Blaine

Jim Downey's picture

Hehehehehe

See this post a while back?

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Hank Fox's picture

Get on the cart!

I can't help but think of that rare comedian among the monks who said "Heh-heh, I'll just not ring the bell today, and see if those idiots take the bait."

Or the one who sat there in the dark and thought "Hmm. My dad told me this was a dead-end career path. I wonder if he might have been right."

And ... Monty Python: Bring Out Your Dead

Jim Downey's picture

"I'm not dead yet."

Or the one who sat there in the dark and thought "Hmm. My dad told me this was a dead-end career path. I wonder if he might have been right."

Well, while nobody gets out alive from this world, I can't help but think that this is more than a bit excessive.

Jim Downey

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