So, these three guys walk into a panel discussion...

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Over the next week or so I'll be writing a lot about some of the things I saw/heard/experienced at the Heinlein Centennial this past weekend. It was a fantastic, and for me, transformative experience, which will play out in interesting ways for some time, I think. Here on UTI I will be posting things related to religion, Heinlein, and private space ventures (the last I will also be posting on dKos). On my own blog I will also be posting more personal stuff which not everyone here may find of interest. This will not be in any kind of order, and this first item was in fact just about the last thing that happened over the weekend.

Jim D

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I went to the Heinlein Centennial for a lot of reasons. Robert A. Heinlein was one of the 'Big Three' SF authors of the 20th century. His work had a profound effect on me in my early years, and still informs much of my world view. There was going to be a large component to the Centennial devoted to private space ventures, with leaders in the field there talking about the work they were doing and what was on the horizon. There were going to be any number of other top-notch SF writers in attendance. And it would provide me the opportunity to do some networking, in promotion of my own writing.

I am not much of a fanboy. I've only attended a few SF conventions - I'm not real big on large crowds, and the time period of my life when most people get plugged into that world I was busy doing something else which entirely preoccupied my time and energy. By the early '90s I was busy (and broke) starting a business, then re-inventing that business in '96, then closing that business in '04. Since then I've been largely devoted to caring for my Mother-in-law, as noted in my brief bio on the left.

Anyway, while I knew the routine and what to expect from such an event, I was a bit of an outsider, a noob. On the other hand, because of some of my other life experience, I can usually pull off having a 'presence' - of looking like someone who is a little more established, a little more experienced, a little more than just a noob. (More on that later.) But the truth is, I had been largely fighting out of my weight class for three days, bluffing my way into discussions, handing out cards for my novel, et cetera - and was pretty much exhausted from it all.

So, the last panel discussion I decided to attend yesterday was on a topic of interest to me, but somewhat outside my main areas of knowledge, and I went intending on just keeping my fool mouth shut and listening (I'm keeping all the details vague for a reason). The three panelists came in, got started with introductions, a brief statement on the topic, and so forth. I'd seen a couple of them in other panel discussions, and had some idea of what to expect. Then one of them made some silly statements about his new-agey religious beliefs that didn't really pertain to the subject, but he thought they did, about how the soul exists outside of the physical body, et cetera.

One of the other panelists, an academic with established cred on the subject, an author with a number of highly-regarded books to his name, got up and nicely, but very energetically and with considerable verve, tore Mr. New-Age a new asshole and shoved all the crap he'd been spewing back into it. It was a thing of beauty to behold, and I sat there thinking "cool - this guy's a rationalist, in addition to his other credentials".

The panel discussion proceeded, returning to the topic at hand, and everyone had a good time. Mr. New-Age didn't seem to mind the slam-dunk he'd suffered, probably because it was done with such artistry, and the contributions of the other panel member and the audience kept things lively and interesting. I kept my mouth shut, but the fellow who'd shut down the nonesense made a comment about something that made me think he might be open to reading my book. When all was wrapped up, and the room was emptying, the panelists gathering together their things, I stepped up to the table, said something to the Rationalist, and handed him my card. As is usual in such situations, he made nice noises about thanking me, said he'd check it out if he had a chance, and I turned to go.

As I did so, I heard an exclamation behind me: "You're Jim Downey!" (The business cards I'd had printed up say 'James Downey'.)

Huh?

I turned to see what the hell caused that. Mr. Rationalist looked like he'd just been handed a big fat check, standing there, my card in hand, looking from me to it and back again with a huge grin on his face. "You're Jim Downey!"

He thrust his hand across the table at me. "I'm a raging atheist - I read Unscrewing the Inscrutable all the time!! In fact, you're the reason I'm here! I read the post you put up a couple months back about the Heinlein Centennial, and so I contacted the organizers and told them I wanted to participate! Wow!"

I was gobsmacked. Bumfuzzled. (And if you've never had your bum fuzzled, you don't know what you're missing.) I'm sure I stood there like an idiot as he continued: "Oh, here, let me..."

He reached over to his bag and pulled out his latest book. Inscibed it to me. "I'm really sorry, but I've got to run and catch the shuttle to the airport, so I can make my flight...I really wish we had time for a drink or something..."

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Mr. Rationalist, I wish I could convey to you what an astonishing experience that was. (Actually, I dropped him a note and told him that I was going to be posting this, and invited him to come by and contribute - but I don't "out" someone without expressed permission.) As I mentioned, I was weary from fighting the good fight all weekend, having a phenomenal time, but also very much feeling like I was completely outclassed by all the brilliant engineers, entrepreneurs, academics, and writers. To have one such panel member even recognize me based on my ramblings here, let alone to be so enthusiastic and gracious about it - well, it was a shot of rejuvenation juice which would make Lazarus Long jump for joy. Thank you.

And thanks to Brent and all you Inscrutables, too. Do not understimate what effect we're having, or who we reach.

Jim Downey

Updated, and in comments: Mr. Rationalist has dropped me a note and said it was OK to ID him: Richard Hanley, Assoc. Prof of Philosophy at U. Delaware, and author of South Park and Philosophy: Bigger, Longer, and More Penetrating and The Metaphysics of Star Trek among others. I mean, how cool is that?

JD

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Updated...

...info about Mr. Rationalist:

Mr. Rationalist has dropped me a note and said it was OK to ID him: Richard Hanley, Assoc. Prof of Philosophy at U. Delaware, and author of South Park and Philosophy: Bigger, Longer, and More Penetrating and The Metaphysics of Star Trek among others. I mean, how cool is that?

Jim Downey

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Paying it Forward

I think it was a great way to end the meeting for you! And who knows - you may yet get that drink with Mr. Rationalist, or have other good things come from the event. Wasn't that one of Heinlein's pet theories? You do good, and the people for whom you do good do good for others, and it just continues. Beats heck out of most religious theories.

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"Beats heck out of most religious theories."

Couldn't have said it better myself, Friday. And has been one of the operative policies of my life.

Jim Downey

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Like Science Fiction? Read my novel, Communion of Dreams, for free.

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Recognition

Jim,

Glad you enjoyed yourself and look forward to hearing more. Especially who your mystery fan was. I am also happy you were congratulated and recognized for your work here on UTI. Like Mr. X, I would also like to express my thanks to you, Brent, Hank and Rick.

UTI is a great website. I am not a new atheist, but I am 'noob' to the world of activist atheism. I am no where near caught up to you fellows on the philosophy of atheism and free thinking, but you have helped me catch up by leaps and bounds. I have learned things over the past two months that probably took you dozens of years, if not your lifetimes, to figure out. Thanks again to all of you for sharing your wisdom and experience.

Dirk

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Impatient

Can't wait to hear more Jim. It sounds like you had a great time.

I'll once again reiterate my jealousy.

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