
Observations and inanities by a second-shift assistant supervisor in the Puppy-Grinding division of the Evil Atheist Conspiracy® (our motto: "Sure it's cruel, but think of the jobs!"), your host, Brent Rasmussen.
Bottomless Pit And/Or Lake Of Fire
Over the years I've had a lot of folks argue with me about my atheism, and I've argued right back - fiercely in some cases, but mostly with good humor and and real try at understanding what the other person is trying to say - and where they are coming from. I've been prayed for by an entire "prayer cell" of Salvation Army Church members in the UK, been the subject of a few sermons in my local churches, shocked the heck out of one set of grandparents with my atheism, and was shocked by the casual acceptance of it by the other set. I've had drunken, hours-long discussions with my brothers about God™, The Universe™, and the Nature Of Reality™. I've lived my life with gusto and tried to create meaning for myself and for my family. This is because I know - with a crystal clarity - how very fleeting all of our lives are on the grand stage of our universe, and how extremely fortunate we are to have appeared on that stage at this particular time - when we can recognize and appreciate our lives.
But this is the very first time I've ever been stealth-cursed by a commenter on my own blog.
Here's the comment. It was placed on an old post of Darksyde's from 2005 about the science of lightning. The commenter called themself "lightning", and linked their nickname to this site called "Satan's Kingdom":
[link] I bind you and cast you out into the bottomless pit and/or lake of fire by the Spirit of God and in the Holy Name Jesus Christ.
The bottomless pit and/or lake of fire? I get a choice? Hmnn. I guess I'll choose bottomless pit. Sure, it'll be boring, but not as painful as that whole lake of fire deal.
Thanks lightning, good buddy!
(Check out the HTML source of the page for a little extra dose of deluded Catholic lunacy. Apparently this internet cursing thing has been around since 2004 and lightning is just now getting around to UTI. It's tough being a wackjob, but is obviously made easier with modern communications technology like the web.)

















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Seriously, thanks! He's been *WAY* too churchy for my tastes of late. Knowing that it was all just an act is good news!
Jim Downey
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Like Science Fiction? Read *or listen to* my novel, Communion of Dreams, for free.
god
So according to him he's above god.
God is at his command.
God is nothing more than a petty weapon he uses to bash people over the head with in his petty arguments.
Of course this means the guy was googling himself...
or how would have found a 2005 post? He surely wouldn't have read all the back-issues and not commented until he got to that one
Anyway, I had not read that post before and very much enjoyed it.
Do you get a boat?
I would think that would impact the decision somewhat, because tooling around on a lake of fire in a demon powered speedboat (you have heard of speed demons haven't you?) would be like way cool.
A boat?? Bah!
C'mon, Tham, you're more evil than that! Someone as foul and loathsome as us UTI Heathens should be able to bloody well *dance* on that lake of fire!
Though I do have to admit, skiing on a lake of fire would be pretty cool...
Jim Downey
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Like Science Fiction? Read my novel, Communion of Dreams, for free.
Definitely the bottomless pit!
If the pit is truly bottomless, you will just keep falling forever. It would be just like flying! I've always wanted to be able to fly! You could practice flipping and spinning, other maneuvers...some hell! I suppose hitting the side would hurt, though. The walls are probably covered in shit or red hot demon semen or some other nastiness, too.
Coincidentally I have also been damned to hell by a person I didn't know; in person and right to my face!
A few years back I was working as a meat cutter. I worked in a natural foods store, similar to Whole Foods or Wild Oats-range raised chicken, preservative free products, etc. Many of the store's customers were vegetarian or vegan for a variety of nutritional, philosophical, or religious reasons, and we occasionally got some dirty looks from people who didn't think a "health food store" should be selling handmade sausages and bacon.
One day I'm behind the counter and a woman starts slowly looking over the products. She only looked to be in her late twenties, but she was dressed like it was 1963. Over the knee brown wool skirt, long argyle socks, thick beige sweater, straight long brown hair and very light, kind of sixties style base makeup. Like a catholic school refugee or something. I asked her if I could help her, and she just froze and stared at me, then walked a little away and started looking at the products again. After a minute or two I looked a little closer and could see some little papers or cards in her hand that she seemed to be reading to the meat! I was hooked, and started furtively observing her actions while I filled the case. I got a closer look and realised she was not holding a nutritional guide or calorie counter or the usual items...she was holding prayer cards and praying over the meat! I thought maybe she was blessing the meat or something, and was just about to ask her about it when she turned and looked at me with half closed eyes as if she was angry, held up her prayer cards like she was warding off a vampire, and with eyes now wide open exclaimed, "You are damned to Hell forever for serving meat!" She then quickly turned and fled from the store.
I laughed for weeks over that. It still makes me giggle thinking about it. I've never been much on breakfast cereal, but sometimes I just loves me some fruit loops.
blood
At least she didn't throw blood on you or something. Some enviromentalists do stuff like that.
Fruit Loops.
Damn, N.T., that's funny! I do wonder what particular brand of craziness she was coming from.
Jim Downey
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Like Science Fiction? Read my novel, Communion of Dreams, for free.
ya
Is it religious or enviromentalist?
Binding
"I bind you" sounds like you're being cursed to constipation.
I was in a little lake resort town last night for the Thursday-night fireworks, there to take pictures (see http://www.flickr.com/photos/hankfox for the few that came out), but also to visit with a friend who was manning the VFD t-shirt booth. While I was talking to Bud, I noticed a large easel set up down the sidewalk about 20 yards, and I thought "Cool. An artist doing some kind of sketching or something. Gotta see that."
I walked down there and there were these crude watercolor drawings on the easel and the words GOD, JESUS, HELL, etc. in large letters over some sort of fanciful diagram. He was talking in a loud voice about Jesus' sacrifice. I took a couple of pictures, but they sucked in the low light.
Anyway, I kinda smiled to myself as I walked away, but later I was thinking "Should I have said something to that guy, just for a bit of backpressure? What should I have said?"
After that, I thought "Here I am an atheist MAINLY because I value honesty and clear understanding. I can't even lie to myself about some happy fantasy. And here's this guy and all his clan who would think I'm bad, maybe even evil, because I'm like this."
Like all those people who warned about this war and were RIGHT, but were branded traitors and fools, people who value honesty -- the GOOD thing -- are the ones in the wrong. As far as the churchy ones are concerned, anyway.
Saw a kid nearby wearing a t-shirt that had all sorts of goddy stuff on the back, and on the front a message that said "This T-shirt is Illegal in 50 countries." The implication being that Christians are under siege, threatened, even here. When in fact, they're a majority, and the clear aggressors in so many recent assaults on people like me.
More and more each day, I'm seeing what I call the "180-degree twist" in every aspect of religion. They love their lies, and dislike anyone who tries to point that out. They want to impose their beliefs on others, while people like me just want to live lives unimpeded by their beliefs.
And I'm supposedly the bad one. The atheist. The liar. The aggressor.
180-degrees opposite of that, in real life, I'm an inoffensive minority who only wants to be left alone, and would much rather not even have this fight imposed upon me.
Live and let live
Hey Hank. Cool pictures. Lake George is one of the most beautiful places I have seen. I especially liked the pics of your old dog Tito and the gliders. Great hobby. One of the most incredible experience I have ever had was sky diving. However, I was so scared I almost had a heart attack. Gliders sound much more appealing.
As far as your encounter with the Jesus freak, I think you did the right thing. I wouldn't have said anything either if I saw that guy ranting like a lunatic on the sidewalk. Live and let live. I don't see any point in being confrontational unless someone gets in my face. It's when they come to my door that really bugs me.
Dirk
I just can't stand it!
Why is it that so many of these morons think that they have magic powers? Even if they believe that their mythical Jee-zuhs could cast out nonexistent demons, how does it follow that they can do so too? It just can't be enough for them to believe in all sorts of garbage about their imaginary sky daddy - they also have to imagine themselves as being able to cast spells. If this doesn't highlight both the human-made nature of religion and the sheer idiocy involved, I'm not sure what does!
Endless falling
I too would choose the bottomless pit. We can chat while we're falling...
It definitely beats burning.
Brent, you're a braver man than I.
I saw that comment yesterday, looked at the guy's url, and decided that I really did not want to test my firewalls with whatever kind of malware might be lurking there...
And the whole "bottomless pit" thing sounds to me like a physics problem: If you were somehow able to bore a shaft all the way through the earth, and line it with a pipe which could resist the pressures and temperatures involved, what would happen to you if you jumped into it?
Jim Downey
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Like Science Fiction? Read my novel, Communion of Dreams, for free.
Go back and forth awhile?
I would guess that you would fall at an increasing rate of speed until you reached terminal velocity. You would then start to decelerate as the mass "above" you increased and that "below" you decreased. Eventually your fall "down" the hole would cease, and you would begin falling back in the direction you just came! I guess this would continue until eventually you reached equilibrium at the center of the earth with equal amounts of mass "above" and "below" you, and you would just hung there.
hope their no malware
I alread visited his site. That would be a good trick though. Get people to follow threw and get virused.
hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu
hyperphysics problem
Earth Sandwich
Seed Science Center
Congratulations! I am sooo
Congratulations! I am sooo jealous. And you get a choice. How considerate is that?
Actually, I am glad you got cursed, spelled, whatever. I had not seen Darksyde's article on lightning before. I do miss science friday.