This is a remarkably bad idea.

Jim Downey's picture

I notice that I've been writing a fair amount on civil liberties and the encroachment on them by the government thanks to the "War on Terror". I'm not really that obsessed with this stuff, but I just keep stumbling across things which should make anyone concerned.

The latest is an item I saw on Yahoo! this morning, from the AP:

AP: Firefighters help in war on terror

WASHINGTON - Firefighters in major cities are being trained to take on a new role as lookouts for terrorism, raising concerns of eroding their standing as American icons and infringing on people's privacy.

Unlike police, firefighters and emergency medical personnel don't need warrants to access hundreds of thousands of homes and buildings each year, putting them in a position to spot behavior that could indicate terrorist activity or planning.

You know, at first glance this doesn't seem that unreasonable, and I'm sure that is what the government is counting on as the word of it spreads to the public. Sure, if some firemen happen to stumble across a big pile of bombs in the basement of someone's apartment, it would be reasonable for them to report it. What's the big deal?

Well, think a little more about it, and see what else is in the news report:

When going to private residences, for example, they are told to be alert for a person who is hostile, uncooperative or expressing hate or discontent with the United States; unusual chemicals or other materials that seem out of place; ammunition, firearms or weapons boxes; surveillance equipment; still and video cameras; night-vision goggles; maps, photos, blueprints; police manuals, training manuals, flight manuals; and little or no furniture other than a bed or mattress.

Be alert for someone who is hostile? Uncooperative? Expressing hate or discontent?

That is dangerously close to thought-policing. If the simple act of expressing discontent (or being perceived as doing so) with the government or any of its agents is enough to get you reported to Homeland Security (which is what the firefighters are being trained to do), then we have slipped past simple awareness to making judgement calls as to what is appropriate political behaviour.

And think about how this might be received: do you seriously want any community or individuals who *might* be at-odds with the political leadership of the state, local, or federal government to be reluctant to report a fire, for fear that some literature they have sitting on a desk could be perceived as necessitating a call to Homeland Security? Isn't that a good way for a fire to get hold, perhaps destroying whole apartment blocks or close-together urban neighborhoods?

Or put another way, would you want your neighbor, who maybe does a little pot on the weekends, to be afraid to call 9-11 for you when you're having a heart attack, because he fears that the EMS team might notice that he's a little red-eyed when they show up? Or have your roommate, who likes to go target shooting and is set up to do his own reloading, not want to call when you think you've accidentally swallowed some poison, since the EMS team might see his guns and gunpowder?

This undermines our trust in the neutral agency of our emergency-response personnel, and so makes us all less safe in the long run. The government has the authority to serve us when in need, not spy on us when it wants. If they want to conduct police actions, they should have to meet the necessary legal requirements to do so, and not try to pull some end-around trick like this.

*Sigh* A reminder that I need to renew my ACLU membership.

Jim Downey

(Cross posted to my blog.)

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Added: Bruce Schneier reminded me of this post of his touching on the same topic earlier this month. Definitely read it.

JD

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Soitgoes's picture

I need a break!

Whenever I get to a point where I think things couldn't possibly get worse, I see crap like this. It's bad enough that people (in this state) are encouraged to go through their neighbor's trash looking for anything that might be construed as "unlawful" (for cash rewards), but this takes the cake. 1984 was a little late, but it's definitely here now!

Hank Fox's picture

Fire Fighters?

Great. Cross a fireman with a security thug and what do you get? No idea, but what you WILL get is a lot of firemen getting a lot less friendly reception from the public. Turn the firemen into cops and there goes the good will.

Here's me expressing hate and discontent with the absolute f*cking idiots who came up with this idea. Can't wait to see firemen armed with tasers and billy clubs, and that glorious moment in the near future when they can arrest a naked guy running out of a burning building in the middle of the night ... for indecent exposure.

OGeorge's picture

War on...

Nothing really to add Jim, but have you noticed that every time we declare a "war on..." we lose something? The "War on Drugs", the "War on Poverty", the "War on Crime", and now, the "War on Terror". Nothing is really accomplished except that the news media gets another bunch of soundbytes and our politicians get to sound tough. And it's so comforting to know that drugs, poverty and crime are no longer a problem in America.

Jim Downey's picture

Bingo.

And it's so comforting to know that drugs, poverty and crime are no longer a problem in America.

Bingo.

Jim Downey

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Dirk Diggler's picture

Ironic side effects of the war on terra

Good article Jim, and I'm glad you posted it. You are not the only one concerned with civil liberties.

Sometimes, I just don't know what the government is thinking. I want to blame this on conservatives, but I doubt the current crop of Dems would put up much resistance if this were left to a vote. All of the points you made are absolutely true. If people are afraid to call the fire department, it makes us all less safe.

The is the same as the illegal immigrant debate that is raging through the country right now. I'm not in favor of amnesty or open borders, but at the same time, I don't want hospitals or the police department or fire department involved with reporting illegal immigrants to ICE.

The irony of the war on terra is that most of damage done is self inflicted. I hope the next president and their administration have a lot more common sense when dealing with these issues.

Jim Downey's picture

I mean, really.

I want to blame this on conservatives, but I doubt the current crop of Dems would put up much resistance if this were left to a vote.

What, and lose the 'power'? Give up on the ability to use the system to spy on their political enemies and feed personal grudges? I mean, really. What pol could resist that?

As we've discussed previously, I worry sometimes that the system such as it has developed has missed the point of our republic's founders. Maybe we should go to some kind of lottery system for selection of our national leaders and congresscritters - not like we'd do any worse.

Jim Downey

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BrainArmor's picture

Atheism and civil liberties

I know you're depressed Jim, and rightly so, but this recent Doonesbury cartoon might cheer you up.

Jim Downey's picture

". . . but water-boarding is legal now."

Thanks, BA - yeah, I enjoyed that when I first read it!

Jim Downey

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littlehorn's picture

Like the government cares

Like the government cares about legality anyway. They'll do anything.

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