
Observations and inanities by a second-shift assistant supervisor in the Puppy-Grinding division of the Evil Atheist Conspiracy® (our motto: "Sure it's cruel, but think of the jobs!"), your host, Brent Rasmussen.
And for today's installment of "1984 - The Musical":
Man, I love the UK, particularly Wales. Have been there half a dozen times, and enjoyed it every time.
But I have to admit, the whole creeping and creepy 1984 mindset about CCTV there drives me nuts. The Brits are well on their way to being a true surveillance society. As I have written recently:
I am constantly dismayed by just how much Great Britain has become a surveillance society, to the point where it is a dis-incentive to want to travel there. In almost all towns of any real size, you are constantly within sight of multiple CCTV cameras, and there is increasing use of biometrics (such as fingerprint ID) as a general practice for even routine domestic travel.
Well, there's another development related to this: the mindset that for "security purposes" the police and public need to "be aware" of people taking photographs. I'm not talking about around some kind of secure military base or something - I mean in general. This sort of thing has been mentioned numerous times over at BoingBoing (in particular, check out this, this, and this), but an item yesterday really jumped out at me:
Middlesbrough cops, goons and clerks grab and detain photographer for shooting on a public street
That links to this Flickr account of the incident:
My friend and I were photographing in the town. I spotted a man being detained by this security guard and a policeman, some kind of altercation was going on, i looked through my zoom lens to see what was happening and then moved on.
Moments later as i walked away this goon jumped in front of me and demanded to know what i was doing. i explained that i was taking photos and it was my legal right to do so, he tried to stop me by shoulder charging me, my friend started taking photos of this, he then tried to detain us both. I refused to stand still so he grabbed my jacket and said i was breaking the law. Quickly a woman and a guy wearing BARGAIN MADNESS shirts joined in the melee and forcibly grabbed my friend and held him against his will. We were both informed that street photography was illegal in the town.
Two security guards from the nearby shopping center THE MALL came running over, we were surrounded by six hostile and aggressive security guards. They then said photographing shops was illegal and this was private land. I was angry at being grabbed by this man so i pushed him away, one of the men wearing a BARGAIN MADNESS shirt twisted my arm violently behind my back, i winced in pain and could hardly breathe in agony.
A policewomen was radioed and came over to question the two suspects ( the total detaining us had risen to seven, a large crowd had now gathered)
The detaining guard released me, i asked the policewoman if my friend and i could be taken away from the six guards, she motioned us to a nearby seat and told all the security people to go. She took our details, name, address, date of birth etc. She wanted to check my camera saying it was unlawful to photograph people in public, i told her this was rubbish.
Now, before you get all worked up hatin' on the Brits for not respecting the civil liberties of their citizens and guests . . .
. . . here's a little gem about New York's finest, also courtesy of BB:
NYPD cop: videoing me breaking the law is a terrorist act
This video is of a man filming a cop who parked illegally in front of a fire hydrant. He follows her, asking questions, and she mostly ignores him. Then something truly disturbing happens.
A retired police woman comes by and informs the first cop, and the man filming that citizens aren't allowed to film anybody who works for the police department "'cause of the terrorism."
OK, isolated incident. But here's a little something else to consider about how the "War on Terror" is suppressing civil liberties of all of *our* citizens and guests:
Border Agents Can Search Laptops Without Cause, Appeals Court Rules
Federal agents at the border do not need any reason to search through travelers' laptops, cell phones or digital cameras for evidence of crimes, a federal appeals court ruled Monday, extending the government's power to look through belongings like suitcases at the border to electronics.
The unanimous three-judge decision reverses a lower court finding that digital devices were "an extension of our own memory" and thus too personal to allow the government to search them without cause. Instead, the earlier ruling said, Customs agents would need some reasonable and articulable suspicion a crime had occurred in order to search a traveler's laptop.
On appeal, the government argued that was too high a standard, infringing upon its right to keep the country safe and enforce laws. Civil rights groups, joined by business traveler groups, weighed in, defending the lower court ruling.
The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals sided with the government, finding that the so-called border exception to the Fourth Amendment's prohibition on unreasonable searches applied not just to suitcases and papers, but also to electronics.
So, it isn't just your underwear and sex toys that the Feds want to paw through when you travel outside the US. It's also any data you might have on any kind of electronic device. "'Cause of the terrorism," you know.
Jim Downey
(Cross posted to Communion of Dreams.)















And . . .
. . . a friend who was having problems posting a comment sent me this relevant link about the Feds hassling people out in the Seattle area. A taste:
Jim Downey
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It could all be related.
Are you sure they aren't just checking for porn?
It gets worse...
You should check out this recent 4-minute NPR piece about yet another use of all those cameras in the UK.
At least there are some people who oppose that level of surveillance there.
Yeah, thanks.
I knew I'd heard something on Morning Edition a couple of days ago, but didn't feel like adding *yet another* item to what was already a long post.
That's the thing about this kind of technology - once it is in place, the people controlling it will find all sorts of applications for it, whatever the initial rationale was for putting it in place.
Jim Downey
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sometimes I actually find it comforting...
...to know I'm an old man and will be dead in a relatively short time. "Land of the surveiled, and the home of the protected" indeed.
Sadly,
I know just what you mean, OGeorge.
Jim Downey
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Like Science Fiction? Read *or listen to* my novel, Communion of Dreams, for free.
The War on Terror, and all
The War on Terror, and all the ideologies associated with it, have cost us more freedom than the actual terrorism. And everyone seems okay with this.
I find myself looking for activities that don't involve leaving an electronic fingerprint of some kind and avoid using my credit card. Too much info is collected on people - whether it be because of security screening in response to terrorism or marketers trying to track how you spend your money and what goes into your purchasing decisions.
Doesn't anyone value privacy anymore?
As you might guess . . .
As you might guess, I do. And I do tend to use cash a lot more than most people when doing routine shopping. But I have no illusions about how much is known about me by government and business.
I honestly don't know what the answer is. Do things have to get so bad that we enter "V for Vendetta" territory? I think maybe so . . . and our corporate and governmental overlords are too smart to let that happen. They'll just keep the water to a low simmer . . .
Jim Downey
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Like Science Fiction? Read *or listen to* my novel, Communion of Dreams, for free.
Privacy
There are some interesting trends coming out of the Internet that I approve of. Politicians and public commentators can be called out by members of the public who can research every comment they make and point out each misstatement. And today more than ever, the cop who chokes and shoves a 14-year-old skateboarder for no good reason has a chance to become famous on YouTube, and get his ass reamed by an unadmiring public, even if he doesn’t get fired.
I think it was David Brin who wrote that an end to privacy will be tolerable if it applies to EVERYBODY. If I get called up on the carpet for downloading Teenage Ninja Vixens and the Adventures of Brenda the Inhaler, I hope to be able to bring up that the judge himself is an ardent fan of Michelle Malkin – Mistress of Leather, and the arresting officer has the complete collection of Ann Coulter's Barnyard Romps.
I'm sure if it happens we'll have to reevaluate just what we are, and what we think of ourselves. We all pick our noses when we think nobody’s watching, we all fart, and we all do many “worse” things, as far as Miss Grundy is concerned. We’ll have to get used to knowing that stuff about others, as we know it about ourselves.
But I tend to think the end-stage of all this need not be all that terrible.
Back when I was a hot springs enthusiast, I had to overcome considerable shyness about shucking off my swimsuit in public, plus nervousness about sitting in a hot tub outdoors with a bunch of naked people. After two or three trips, though, the swim suit came off and I was perfectly comfortable with it. Eventually I realized that we walk around naked all the time, it’s just that sometimes we’re covered by clothes. And mostly, naked humans are no more visually titillating than naked wombats, or pigeons.
It’s the transition that will be nasty, as our “justice” system will be slow to readjust, and will be punishing people in draconian fashion for years after the general public knows the “crime” is normal human behavior (think pot smoking, for which, once upon a time, Texas could sentence you to death).
I was reading today that the U.S. is an anomaly in the sense that our justice system is significantly harsher than most countries', meting out prison sentences for bouncing checks, for instance, and holding something like a quarter of all the world’s prison inmates.
I wonder if the reason the British put up with the surveillance, and that it seems so scary to us Americans, is that the Brits feel confident that the cameras probably don’t represent a mean-spirited desire to crush them for the slightest infraction, whereas here in the U.S. we know they absolutely would be used that way. Whereas we have a justice system that seems based on what I call “A Free Ticket to Hurt Somebody,” they have something aimed more at actually keeping the peace, and they know it.
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"Freedom begins when you tell Mrs. Grundy to go fly a kite." -Robert Anson Heinlein.
Too harsh?
Interesting take on the subject, Hank. I'm not sure I have ever seriously considered the idea that the U.S. justice system was too harsh, rather than too lenient, especially when compared to the rest of the world.
I remember reading that one could be put to death for drunken driving and drug possession in South and Central America. I don't know this for a fact, but considering some of the other things that go on in those places in the name of justice, it wouldn't surprise me. I understand that in Mexico one is considered guilty until proven innocent, and traffic accidents can be considered crimes, even if you're not driving drunk.
I know for a fact that criminals who commit sex crimes, such as sexual assault or indecency with a child, are very often released on probation. Yet, drug offenses will often will land one in jail, which should be the exact opposite from my point of view. But the War on Drugs is big business, and so it continues.
Thanks for the insight, Hank.
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