Dance Hall Days

Brent Rasmussen's picture

A few weeks ago my brother invited us to come out and see him play at a popular country & western steakhouse called "San Tan Flat". San Tan Flat is a fun, family place. There is a large outdoor area where you can sit and have dinner, and where the band plays. There's also a small, circular dance floor in front of the stage.

Now, Mrs. Inscrutable and I like to cut a rug now and then, and I was excited to be able to dance with her this time. "Man," I said to my brother, "It's been a while since we've been able to come out and see you play! It'll be fun to dance!"

"You can't dance there," said Mike. "It's against the law."

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Needless to say, I was floored. However, it did appear as if it was true. It turns out that the Pinal County Board of Supervisors had dusted-off a 60-year-old county ordinance that required a "dance hall" to be in a completely enclosed structure. So, they arbitrarily called the San Tan Flat steakhouse a "dance hall", then threatened the owner Dale Bell with more than $200,000 in fines if he didn't act as "dance police" with his own customers.

[link] In an outrageous example of government power run amok, officials from Pinal County, Ariz. (located between Phoenix and Tucson), are trying to drive a successful entrepreneur out of business. How is the government doing this? By demanding that restaurant owner Dale Bell and his son and business partner, Spencer, stop patrons from dancing outdoors or their steakhouse will face fines of up to $200,000 annually—fines large enough to shut down even the most successful enterprise.

Pinal County bureaucrats are relying on an obscure zoning ordinance that requires a “dance hall” to be run in a “completely enclosed structure.” After a string of other unsuccessful efforts to harass and shut down Bell, the officials have now arbitrarily decided that Dale’s successful steakhouse with outdoor seating becomes a dance hall each time a customer listening to the restaurant’s live country/western music is inspired to dance under the stars.

It was silly as hell to experience, really. Mike and the band were playing, and little kids - 3 to 10 years old I guess - would get up from their family's table and start dancing around the small circular dance floor. little girls in pink boots and cowboy hats, pretending to two-step with each other. Until one of the managers or waiters would apologetically talk to mom and dad, explain the ridiculous situation, and the kids would be hustled off the dance floor.

Insane. The Pinal County Board of Supervisors should be ashamed of themselves for acting like power-mad, nanny-state dipshits.

Good news, though. Yesterday, May 1, 2008, the Institute for Justice (who had taken the case for Dale and his son/business partner Spencer, won in the Arizona Superior Court when the judge ruled that the county was restricting their freedoms using a very thin excuse, and that San Tan Flat was not "an enterprise for dance".

Yesterday, the Institute for Justice Arizona Chapter defeated a ridiculous government demand that forced Arizona entrepreneur Dale Bell to ban dancing outside his Country & Western steakhouse, San Tan Flat, or else face fines of almost $200,000 a year.

“This business is our American Dream,” said Dale, who runs San Tan Flat with his 17-year-old son and business partner, Spencer. “I'm very pleased that freedom and common sense have prevailed. It is hard enough to run a business these days without having to jump through completely arbitrary hoops bureaucrats can put in your way.”

San Tan Flat is a popular steakhouse in Pinal County—located between Phoenix and Tucson—that provides live country music in its outdoor courtyard. Customers often dance to the family-friendly entertainment under the desert stars. County officials, however, dusted off an obscure 60-year-old zoning ordinance to argue that every time one of Dale’s customers swayed to the music the steakhouse instantly morphed into a “dance hall.” According to the old law, dancing outdoors in a “dance hall” is strictly forbidden.

During a hearing yesterday, Superior Court Judge William O’Neil strongly disagreed, stating, “When a local government restricts freedoms it’s a dangerous thing.” Judge O’Neil struck down the Pinal County ruling, finding and stating, “San Tan Flat is not an enterprise for dance.”

Good for them! I look forward to visiting San Tan Flat again real soon, and kicking up my heels with Mrs. Inscrutable!

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Sudo's picture

Mr. Dotson

Thank you for so eloquently expressing the opposing view in this case. It certainly seems from your point of view that you have a case. Good luck.

Brent Rasmussen's picture

I Have To Agree

I agree with Sudo. Thank you for taking the time to inform us of the other side of this particular issue. I can see where you and your neighbors are coming from on this, and I empathize with your position. It will be interesting to see how this all shakes out.

BobDotson's picture

RE: Dance Hall Days

I was in court on May 7th when Judge O'Neil made his ruling concerning the San Tan Flat violation of Pinal County Zoning Ordinances. Even though Judge O'Neil ruled in favor of Dale Bell, Judge O'Neil spent a significant amount of time speaking directly to Dale Bell about how the Judge understood the plight of the neighbors near Mr. Bell's establishment, and how Judge O'Neil would be appalled if the County ever allowed an establishment such as Mr. Bell operates, anywhere near the Judge's home in rural Pinal County. Judge O'Neil talked of individual property rights, and the exercise of those property rights as a ‘balancing act’, rubbing together his colliding fists to help demonstrate his point.

It is this 'balancing act' of individual property rights that I would like to address in response to the various articles and editorials that have been published concerning this conflict over the past 2 years. The primary point I would like to discuss is the very important issue that Judge O'Neil pointed out in court, and that is the balancing act of property rights between property owners.

On one side we find Mr. Bell, operating an establishment that he claims he built following all of the required guidelines and procedures, claiming he has honored all of his commitments, making claims of how good his business is for the 'community', all with what he claims are within his rights as a property owner, and that the County is trying to ‘ban dancing’ in Pinal county.

On another side we find the surrounding property owners, who claim that every Friday and Saturday nights, holiday's nights, and many other nights in between, that Mr. Bell takes over our properties for his own use, blasting unbearable loud noise across our properties and into our homes, shines glaring commercial signage across our properties into the windows of our homes, casts a blanket of smoke across our properties from the marshmallow roasting fires fouling the air our families and livestock breath, and then nightly discharges inebriated patrons onto our neighborhood streets, patrons whom routinely choose our neighborhood streets to avoid encounters with law enforcement with no consideration for the families they put at risk.
Unlike TV, radio, or the printed media where when you are offended, or tire of it, or find the timing inconvenient, then you can simply switch it off, set it aside, or not buy it in the first place; but here in our neighborhood, only Mr. Bell gets to choose what music and speech we will hear, blasting into our yards, our homes, our lives, night after night, like it or not, want it or not, only Dale Bell gets to choose when and what will be heard for all of the surrounding property owners.

Now the predominance of the reporting and editorial about this conflict has focused around some injustice being perpetrated against Mr. Bell, which he has spun in the media as an attack on everyone’s right to dance. The candid truth is, we could care less about people dancing in Mr. Bell’s establishment. I don’t know a one among us who doesn’t like to dance. Mr. Bell, spun through his current proxies - the various media, would have us surrender our land, our homes, our dreams, our hopes, to the likes of the blatant recurring trespass from Mr. Bell, that we, Mr. Bell’s neighbors, somehow hold some odd notions of responsible property ownership and appropriate civil behavior, that we have been duped into some kind of flawed thinking about our plight in the face of a bully, that the idea that we might cry foul is somehow wrong, and that it is somehow inappropriate to plead with our elected government to right the wrong, and restore the peace to our neighborhood.

If you remember, we all watched on television as a group of PSYOP soldiers played deafening rock music, 24 hours a day, over loudspeakers that ringed the Vatican Embassy compound where General Noriega had taken refuge. The siege continued until General Manuel Noriega couldn't take the 'constant bombardment of the music' anymore and surrendered. In Iraq, in Fallujah's darkened, empty streets, U.S. troops blast AC/DC's "Hell's Bells" and other rock music full volume from a huge speaker, hoping to grate on the nerves of this Sunni Muslim city's gunmen and give a laugh to Marines along the front line. That is Psychological Warfare Operations.

Granted San Tan Ranches is not a war zone (although some of your readers would like to make it one), and Mr. Bell is not by any stretch of the imagination, a hoard of terrorists bent on killing us all. However, much of the editorial opinion and reporting so far would have us all believe that when our nation’s founding fathers were crafting the Declaration of Independence, that when Thomas Jefferson carefully scribed the concept "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.", that we all must have missed the footnote lay hidden until Mr. Bell came along, that holds an exception - that Mr. Bell somehow enjoys greater privilege over everyone else. Putting the pun aside, it was this very concept of privilege that our founding fathers found to be so objectionable, so much so, that they were willing to risk everything to protect against it. With the 9th amendment of the US Constitution, the premise of Mr. Bell's extraordinary privilege that some of the editorials would try to convince us all of, is clearly dashed by "The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people." Mr. Bell's rights clearly end where exercising his rights deny the rights of his neighbors, and that is exactly what Mr. Bell has been doing, continues to do, and is doing so with the support of the media, and particularly unfortunate for our Republic, ‘the press’ - the very place our founding fathers created extraordinary constitutional protections in order to make sure the exchange of ideas would be forever assured.

The elected and appointed government officials in Pinal County, and the State of Arizona, as agents 'of the people, by the people, for the people' have an absolute obligation to protect the rights of 'all of its citizens', setting aside prejudice, special interests, and all other distractions that might interfere with protection of freedom and the fair application of justice, not just for Mr. Bell, but for all of its citizens. Mr. Bell has rights, and so far, the scale for the rights proposition has leaned heavily in Mr. Bell's favor, entirely at the expense of the rights of his neighbors. Mr. Bell is not entitled to the unencumbered use of our neighborhood properties, to use as he currently chooses to, constructively seizing them from us for his own enjoyment and enrichment, and the County through its actions or inaction, cannot surrender our properties to Mr. Bell or allow to continue, Mr. Bell's nightly trespass. That would effectively constitute an unlawful application of eminent domain, the taking of our properties, and handing them over to Mr. Bell, having denied our neighborhood property owners their due legal recourse, compensation and treatment under the law. The County is obliged to restore the "balance" Judge O'Neil referred to in court.

As for the editorial staffs of the press, I say to you: It's time for you and your readers to face up to your own prejudices and misconceptions instead of relying on the propaganda fed to you by Mr. Bell, and recognize the real injustice that is occurring, the real tragedy in our community, the damage Mr. Bell has inflicted on the trust in the press that our founding fathers recognized as so crucial to the survival of our Republic. Mr. Bell has used your publications for his own selfish propaganda. Regardless how Mr. Bell has portrayed our neighbors in the San Tan Foothills, there are good, hardworking and honorable people here, caring people, and mostly people trying their best to help our community. It would sure be refreshing to see the media, and especially the editorial staffs of the press recognize the real injustice, and finally come to the aid of the neighborhood under siege in the San Tan Foothills.

Respectfully,

Bob Dotson

Kilgore Trout's picture

Hehe U.T.I.

First I'll say that this is a stupid law and sounds like a personal vendetta, good luck with that.

I'm actually posting here just because I had something random a stupid in my head and didn't want to leave it on one of the more serious posts. Seeing as I work in health care I get a little giggle out of the name UTI. I can't help but think of Urinary Tract Infection. Just a random thought that floated through my head.

Sudo's picture

Me, too

I can't help but think of Urinary Tract Infection.

You're not the only one. =)

Hank Fox's picture

UTI

Unscrewing the Inscrutable! Giving the Religious Right dull abdominal pain and burning piss since 1965!

Dana Hunter's picture

That's My Home State!

Keeping the grand tradition of official stupidity alive in my absence, I see. You go, AZ!

Of course, Seattle's having its own issues with stupid morality laws. Band members are no longer allowed to drink onstage. This, of course, has led to Roger Clyne's clever trick of stepping off-stage to grab a shot of tequila.

The Morality Police: If you're having fun, that means you're probably breaking the law!

Brent Rasmussen's picture

Circus Mexicus 2008

Of course, the obvious stupidity of these laws fades away when you're watching a sunset in Puerto Penasco, getting ready for the Peacemaker's show this year. ;)

The Future Was Yesterday's picture

Dance Floors

As a former steel guitar player in a C&W band in Michigan, I (we) also encountered asinine laws such as this. One such place had a HUGE dance floor, and you could use it anytime - that there wasn't live music!

Fortunately they weren't enforced, and the owners just told us about the law, then gave us free beers.

WWJD?:)

Milo Johnson's picture

must be an attitude problem...

"If our lord wasn't testing us, how would you account for the proliferation, these days, of this obscene rock and roll music, with its gospel of easy sexuality and relaxed morality?"

MusicMan's picture

Dance Hall Days

I'm a working musician in a Reggae band, and I can tell you this is not a unique story. I've worked in many clubs and restaurants over the years that have had similar problems. Completely arbitrary rules like "no more than 4 musicians". Or "no amplifiers", even though the DJ inbetween set can blow your ears off with 100db+ dance music.

One club had patrons dancing for 40 years until some bureaucrat discovered that they never got a "dance permit". We had to play booty shakin' Reggae to people sitting in their chairs. The permit was never granted, and the club finally closed, making Sunset Beach, CA. a much safer place...

Hank Fox's picture

Legalities

My first college was in a "dry" county -- meaning alcohol sale and consumption was illegal anywhere in the county.

The interesting side effect of the law was that masses of college students drove the 30 miles to the county line every weekend to drink — after which they drove the 30 miles home ... drunk.

Sudo's picture

Blue laws

They didn't do away with so-called 'blue laws,' in which certain goods could not be sold on Sundays, until 1985 (at least in Texas.)

Hank, the same thing has occurred to me about dry counties as the prohibition against buying alcohol after midnight. You can't buy beer at a store after midnight, but you can go to a bar and drink til 2 AM. So you can't go home and drink, but you can stay out drinking and drive home drunk later. Right.

Steve James's picture

Why?

I'm curious what they have against him, exactly. Is it personal or something? Surely it isn't the actual dancing they want to stop, but the restaurant itself. How about a local tax on steak restaurants, guys? Then you could get money from him as well as hose him off.

Did he steal somebody's secret barbeque recipe?

I expect this kind of behavior from insipid moralists against places like tattoo parlors, strip clubs and porn shops (And from other insipid moralists against gun shops)...but a steak house? Is the county run by PETA members?

They could also have passed a 'cabaret license' requirement like some places do to stop the dancing--but then the guy could have just gotten a license.

It baffles me. If you're going to do evil, please do it in smart ways.

Steve "Stupid + Evil offends me." James

sage's picture

There was no dancing at my high school, either

Nope, no dancing, and this was in 1985. Thank the WELS. "It might lead to something." Freaks.

Thank the flying spaghetti monster that my sons & I are good atheists. They get to attend nice public school dances nowadays. No krumping, though.

wantobe's picture

Obviously a religious prohibition

I mean, has there ever been a 60-year-old prohibition against dancing that wasn't religiously motivated? In this case, though, the prohibition was dusted off (it appears) only because the town officials want to harass the owners. The ridiculous law is interesting, and it's great that a Judge overturned the ruling, but to me the real story is the abuse of power displayed here.

This wasn't just a case of a town council having to apply a rule it didn't like but couldn't do anything about. This was pure meanness, and I hope the officials are investigated. The story mentions that they've tried to hurt this guy before, so it should be pretty cut-and-dried.

Rob Miles
--
There are only 10 types of people in the world;
those who understand binary and those who don't.

No More Mr. Nice Guy's picture

Do you know why fundies are opposed to standing up?

Because it can lead to dancing.

- No More Mr. Nice Guy!

Hank Fox's picture

Same joke, different wording

Why Southern Baptists never have sex standing up:

People might think they were dancing.

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