"Kirk v. Picard"

Jim Downey's picture

In a discussion of this news item over on MeFi, a brilliant metaphor about doctrinal differences between Christian sects popped up that I had to share. Here's the comment:

“Some Christians will find it shocking — a challenge to the uniqueness of their theology — while others will be comforted by the idea of it being a traditional part of Judaism,”

Christians are well aware of their heritage. Why do you think Pat Robertson has been such a strong supporter of Israel?

Much of the text, a vision of the apocalypse transmitted by the angel Gabriel, draws on the Old Testament, especially the prophets Daniel, Zechariah and Haggai

Kind of like Joseph Smith, only better.

This is like having a serious discussion about Kirk vs. Picard.

And a good response in the next comment:

I like the Kirk vs Picard comparison. There definitely is a sad, obsessive-fan-geek quality to religious belief. At least the Trekkies aren't killing us and each other over their fantasies. Give it a few decades, though.

Whaddya think?

Jim Downey

(Oh, and this is close to quoting Star Trek twice, I suppose.)

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Steve James's picture

Stretching the analogy

So, if it's Kirk vs Picard, then who's Archer?

Probably Mormonism.

Sisko and Janeway are for heretics.

Flash forward 2000 years, when presidential candidates are explaining why faith in Kirk and Picard are not contradictory.

Steve "Angering the Church of Elvis" James

  Jeg's picture

Kirk vs. Picard

The Kirk vs. Picard analogy is brilliant and captures what goes on Christian discussion sites. The debates sometimes become heated and inevitably some dork would pronounce eternal damnation against his opponent. Sort of like a theist version of Godwin's law. That's because theism is huge.

You should consider it a good sign when atheist sites get their own spirited Kirk vs Picard discussions on atheism and its many flavors. Right now the community is small and so my impression is theyre more concerned with giving each other support rather than debate. You won't condemn each other to hell so it won't be as much fun. The only put-down I can think of is "Oh yeah? Well for believing that, you'd be with Jesus when you die." ;-)

Hank Fox's picture

Deep South Accent ...

I don' even have to read that there article. I jist have to read my Bahble.

...

Ugh. I just last week met a young man, 28, who looked me in the face and told me that Jesus-Christ-the-Lord-God spoke to him, spoke to his heart, in a real voice, and told him to believe.

And this was a business meeting.

Not long back, I toyed with the idea of attending various churches and blogging about it from an atheist perspective. But it would be like going into a dog pound and making friends with the animals there, knowing that something nasty was going to happen to most of them, and that I couldn't save them.

...

(Picard for commanding presence, Kirk for action.)

ML's picture

Depends upon your definition of "action"......

Picard definitely ices Kirk in the hotness category. ;)

Kirk may have had more women on the shows, but Picard can get action any time he likes in the real world......

Hank Fox's picture

Ahem.

"Action" as in fighting, running around on hostile planets, kicking Gorn ass, dodging Hortas, outwitting immortal androids named Roc.

Picard is all "Earl Grey, hot," but Kirk is "Die, salt-sucking creepazoid!"

Jim Downey's picture

Providing hope . . .

...but Picard can get action any time he likes in the real world......

Providing hope for bald guys, everywhere.

Jim Downey

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ML's picture

My grandfather's answer...........

My grandfather's answer - which he told to the men in my family, who inherited his ability to lose hair at an early age - was that he has better things to do with his testosterone. ;)

Hank Fox's picture

Regarding Hair Loss

Two of mine are:

After you lose half your hair, the pressure's off.

The great thing about going bald is that if you're dining out and you find a hair in your food, you just pick it out and go on eating.

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