Confession Time: "As time goes by" edition.

Jim Downey's picture

"You must remember this . . ."

OK, fess up - name your favorite classic movie. (For our purposes, since I just turned 50, we'll say any movie older than I am is 'classic'.)

I'll say Casablanca. It's got Bogart, and Nazis, and guns, and booze, and Ingrid Bergman, and many quotable lines - what more could you want?

So, what's yours?

Jim Downey

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Anonymous User's picture

What? No Japanese flicks?

It's so hard to pick just one special movie but I can't believe no one-especially you Jim- didn't even mention Seven Samurai and Rashomon. Both are masterfully made. If not for Bogart's long list of greats either of these could be my #1.

Jim Downey's picture

Fair enough.

Yeah, just about anything by Kurosawa is great, but in all honesty I don't own any of those movies and don't watch them but occasionally. So it would be hard to claim that they are 'favorites'.

Jim Downey

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Steve James's picture

Aw

Hey, I'm not one to skimp on my Kurosawa, but masterful and groundbreaking as the source of all modern action films is...c'mon, we're kind of talking entertainment value here, not cinematic importance.

"Seven Samurai" for instance is three freakin' hours of people staring at each other, (I own two copies, so I know) punctuated with iconic camera work. It's important, a milestone in film history, but it ain't that much fun, at least on the first few viewings.

In some ways, Kurosawa's greatest contribution was being the shamelessly-ripped-off-source of the Spaghetti Western.

Which, unfortunately, falls outside our scope.

Steve "If it weren't, I'd be talking up 'Once Upon a Time in the West'" James

Suzanne's picture

favorite classic movie

The best classic movie of all time has to be "The African Queen" (1951). I love the interaction between Humphrey Bogart and Katharine Hepburn.

My favorite line in the movie: "I never dreamed a mere physical experience could be so stimulating."

Neil the password forgetter's picture

A lot of the great classics

just don't float my boat, but The Maltese Falcon is still good by any standards. Bogart to Peter Lorrie: "When I slap you, you'll take it and like it!" I also love the look of horror, anger and disgust on the female lead's face when Bogart tells her that if she catches a break, she'll be "out of Tehachapi" in twenty years or so...I lived there for a few months, and even twenty years in the town, much less the prison, is quite a sentence. Makes me laugh every time. And the final line is one of the best ever. Just as everyone realizes the statue is a fraud and asks what it really is, Bogie answers, "The stuff dreams are made of." Kick ass.
Two other favorites:
Alfred Hitchcock's "Rope." Never have so few done so much with so little in Hollywood.
And The Creature from the Black Lagoon has to be one of the most underrated horror movies of all time. Better than usual script and acting, a decent looking monster, and I love the underwater camera work.

breakerslion's picture

The Wizard of Oz

Gets my vote, though I have a certain affinity for all the Bogart flicks. Lauren Bacall will be hot for as long as those movies last.

I too have recently hit the 50 mark. Upon reflection, I have seen Oz more often than any other movie, and it had something for me at all ages. Today, I especially enjoy the symbolism of the false god and the manipulator behind the curtain. The whole scene in the throne room where the Wizard gives out the trappings of symbol-minded society is also of great significance. It still stands as the best primer for young children as to the nature of what bullshit is deemed important. I am amazed that this movie was allowed to be made. The control-freaks in charge really missed the point.

wantobe's picture

I can't believe I didn't mention this before

It's a fricken Wonderful Life. I know it's only shown at Christmas time, but that's one of my all-time favorites too. I love the scene where Jimmy Stewart and Donna Reed are walking back from the dance, bantering back and forth.

And hell, who knew that Lionel Barrymore had been in so many movies.

A Miracle On 34th Street comes a close second (as long as it's the original, and not the stupid remake from the 80s).

There hasn't been a single remake of either movie that's been worth a damn.

Rob Miles
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There are only 10 types of people in the world;
those who understand binary and those who don't.

frankmoorman's picture

Three b&w greats

From that era, I would say The Treasure of the Sierra Madre (directed by John Huston) is my favorite; I will watch that any time I get a chance. Walter Huston gives a phenomenal performance, Bogart is at his best grungy Bogart, and plenty of quotable lines, my favorite being Walter Huston at the end, after one of the greatest cinematic laughing fits of all time: "Oh laugh, Curtin, old boy. It's a great joke played on us by the Lord, or fate, or nature, whatever you prefer. But whoever or whatever played it certainly had a sense of humor!"

The Third Man and The Maltese Falcon (Bogart and John Huston again, and what role did Walter Huston play in this one?) run close seconds; I would watch any of these in a heartbeat.

Frank Moorman, skeptic

Brent Rasmussen's picture

Destination Moon

The 1950 classic about space travel to the moon is excellent. Heinlein was the technical advisor on the screenplay and on the film set itself, and he wrote his short story "Destination Moon" based on the screenplay.

It won an Academy Award for "Best Special Effects", and Heinlein himself wrote about how he really pushed George Pal (the producer and director of the film) to be as accurate and as true-to-life as they could within the budget of the movie.

It's rumored that this actor is actually Heinlein in a cameo in one of the first scenes in the movie as a military officer announcing a countdown during a rocket test.

Destination Moon was the first film to clearly spell out the rationale for space travel, and was the first to alluded to a "space race" with an un-named enemy nation (clearly the Soviet Union, though.)

It also used Woody Woodpecker in an animated sequence that taught laymen about how space travel and astrogation actually worked in conjunction with orbital mechanics in a simplified manner. And the information was accurate, not made-up! Cool! :)

Here's the original theatrical trailer, and here's almost 10 minutes from the movie on YouTube:


Anonymous User's picture

Tintin ??

Is it coincidence that the title is identical to the title of a Tintin book -- and a number of the visuals are identical to panels from said book?

Brent Rasmussen's picture

Tintin

Tintin's "Destination Moon" and the sequel, "Explorers On The Moon" did not come out until 1953, more than three years after George Pal's Destination Moon movie was made and released.

Hank Fox's picture

Heh.

"Hey, weah stuck up heah! We ain't movin'!"

That character sounds like he should be in a movie titled "Mooks in Space."

Jim Downey's picture

Surprisingly,

I've never seen it but put it on the NetFlix queue some months back, and it has been slowly rising towards the top. Looking forward to it - thanks for the trailer!

Jim Downey

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Steve James's picture

Lauren Bacall makes any film 15 degrees hotter

So I'll take "To Have and Have Not" any day.

"You know how to whistle, don't you, Steve?"

She's talking to me, you know.

Lemmy's picture

THE THIRD MAN is an amazing

THE THIRD MAN is an amazing classic film. The chase scene in the sewers will stick with you forever. Orson Wells is one of the greatest villians of all time here.

DOUBLE INDEMNITY with Fred MacMurray and Edward G Robinson is utterly fantastic as well. A MILLION quoteable lines in that one.

Anonymous User's picture

Casablanca is it

If you draw the line at 1958, which really means you exclude the Grand Canyon of Movie Mediocrity (approx. 1944 thru 1970, ), Casablanca is the one where everything that is America and Hollywood comes together. Bogart, Nazis, jazz (Fats Waller played the actual piano parts), loyalty, cynicism, honor, equality, racism, love, greed, sacrifice, guy bonding, murder, rescue, gambling, booze, cigarettes, guns.

"Quotable lines" is an understatement. Casablanca shaped the American dialect. People quote it without knowing they are quoting, because the phrases that appear in Casablanca became how we all speak.

Somewhat confusingly for us 1958-ers, we are getting to the point where "vintage" and "classic" includes what we know perfectly well to be "new" movies (from 1970 forward).

Jim Downey's picture

Heh.

Somewhat confusingly for us 1958-ers, we are getting to the point where "vintage" and "classic" includes what we know perfectly well to be "new" movies (from 1970 forward).

Heh. Hehehehehe!

Jim Downey

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Anonymous User's picture

Favorite old movie

I love the movie 12 Angry Men. It is such a poignant display of how our prejudices manipulate us completely beyond our comprehension many times.

Henry Fonda is soooo good in this movie and the scene where EVERYONE just turns their back when the old man goes into his diatribe is just great. If more of us would have the courage to "turn our backs" to hatred. Not turn blind eyes but actively turn our backs, the world would be a better place.

Peace

Jim Downey's picture

Excellent rec!

Ah, yes, 12 Angry Men - need to add that to the queue! Thanks!

Jim Downey

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wantobe's picture

Cool Hand Luke

I know it ain't 50 years old, but for my money there just is no better movie.

Still, there are some older movies that I like, though I don't know for sure if anyone else considers them classic. The original King Kong, for instance, and Mighty Joe Young. Yea, they were cheesy, but they went a long way to defining that genre of horror. And speaking of horror, what about just about anything with Vincent Price?

Interestingly, as a kid I really liked Gone With the Wind, but now that I'm older I can't bear to watch the whole thing; it's just too damned long. My cousin really like Citizen Kane, but I never could get into it. We both liked On the Waterfront, though (but that's not 50 years old, is it?)

Oh, I forgot the one movie that should be considered an instant classic, regardless of it's release date: Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band, with The BeeGees and Peter Frampton.

Rob Miles
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There are only 10 types of people in the world;
those who understand binary and those who don't.

Hank Fox's picture

Citizen Kane

Years ago I came across the phrase "famous because they're famous," the idea being that some people don't really have any sort of skill or accomplishment to offer to account for the fact that they're famous.

I made up the phrase "primacy of place" to express the idea that some things are famous because they were first, and not because they're best.

To me, both concepts apply to Citizen Kane. I saw some sort of poll on American film not long back, and Citizen Kane won the "best movie ever" title. Yet when you watch it, it's ... just okay. Interesting, quirky, but otherwise, nothing to dwell on for long periods of time after you see it. But because it was the first to do the things it did, it became a cultural touchstone.

Pulp Fiction struck me the same way. If it wasn't for the quirky editing, to me there was almost nothing in it that was special. It's like a Taco Bell taco -- if you're hungry, and you slather on enough sauce, it's palatable. But it's just something to chunk down your throat on the fly, trusting that you'll get to eat real food later.

Jim Downey's picture

Only if you're stoned.

Cool Hand Luke is excellent, no doubt, even if it is too new for our game. I don't see why anyone would argue with either King Kong (the 1933 version - anyone seen the 2005 one from Jackson?) or Mighty Joe Young. And yes, Vincent Price haunted my nightmares as a child. OtW was 1954.

Sgt. Pepper's? Man, only if you're stoned. *Really* stoned.

Jim Downey

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sinned34's picture

Sadly...

Other than the Wizard Of Oz, I can't think of a single movie over 50 years old that I've seen.

That said, "Dr. Strangelove or How I Learned To Stop Worrying and Love The Bomb" is one of my top five movies of all time! That will just have to suffice..!

Jim Downey's picture

I should . . .

. . . add WoO to my NetFlix queue - haven't seen it in years. Thanks for that!

In terms of finding movies from a given year, IMDb has this: http://www.imdb.com/Sections/Years/

Oh, and yeah, Dr. Strangelove is excellent!

Jim Downey

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Like Science Fiction? Read *or listen to* my novel, Communion of Dreams, for free.

Hank Fox's picture

Ha!

Absolutely no question:

THE DAY THE EARTH STOOD STILL.

And I'll bet the upcoming remake will be a prize-winning suckfest.

Jim Downey's picture

Good choice.

That is a good choice, and I do love the 1950s Science Fiction movies as a general rule.

And yes, I bet the remake will suck. Be nice if it didn't, but still . . .

Jim Downey

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Like Science Fiction? Read *or listen to* my novel, Communion of Dreams, for free.

MightyLambchop's picture

Difficult

Tight race between Dr. Zhivago and Some Like It Hot.
I go from one extreme to another.

Jim Downey's picture

And neither...

Both good movies, but neither falls within the time limit (1965 and 1959, respectively).

Jim Downey

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hayesy's picture

Lawrence of Arabia. I win.

Lawrence of Arabia. I win.

Jim Downey's picture

Nope.

1962. No win.

Jim Downey

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  Jeg's picture

It's not quite 50 years old but...

... I confess to The Sound of Music being my favorite.

It's got Nazis and a totally hot Julie Andrews. Oh, and many memorable songs. (It's a confession, right?)

Jim Downey's picture

No absolution.

Yes, Jeg, it is a confession - but no absolution for movies outside the time frame.

As far as Julie Andrews movies, this has always been my favorite.

Jim Downey

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