Where would you draw the line?

wantobe's picture

Christian Trejbal is a columnist for my local paper, The Roanoke Times, and he recently wrote an editorial on "Where we vote affects how we vote". In short, he thinks voting should not take place in churches. It's not a bad column, and he brings up some good points, but I disagreed with one aspect of it. He wrote that, along with believers in other faiths, Atheists will feel uncomfortable voting in a church because of the crosses, the messages they see, etc.

I don't have to vote in a church now, but the precinct where we used to live did have to go to a church. I never had a problem with it (other than to suppress my amusement at the naive, immature messages and sentiments displayed about a "loving" god), and I don't know of too many Atheists who would. I won't go into them when they are being used for their intended purpose (worship), but if that's where I have to vote, I will and not feel in the least intimidated or offended. (You can find the Round Table discussion of this editorial, in which I express those sentiments, here, but you won't miss much if you don't go.)

My computer consulting/repair business has, for some reason, a number of churches in the area who are our clients, and I don't have a problem working in them either. I don't broadcast my Atheism while I'm there, but I won't hide it either. If asked, I'll be happy to state my position and discuss it with anyone who wishes to. My partner, who is a Christian, agrees with me that if we lose a client because I'm an Atheist, it's no great loss.

But the churches I've been to in this area are Mostly Harmless, and the overriding messages seen in them are about how good god is. Again, it's naive and childish, but there aren't any "god hates fags" or "atheists will burn in hell" type vibes. That makes it easier for me to ignore where I am and focus on why I'm there. I'm sure there are churches like around here somewhere, I've just been fortunate enough not to have been in them.

But I would refuse to work for the KKK, Black Panthers, or similar hate group, because their hatred is up front and a core part of their makeup. I would also refuse to go into a church along the lines of Fred Phelps, and if one of our current church clients suddenly started showing overt signs of intolerance I would have a hard time continuing to work for them. I also wouldn't work for a local atheist group that had overt signs of "Christians suck" and "believers are stupid." Business is business, but I have my principles.

This is/was supposed to be about voting in churches, though, so I'm asking: did you have to vote in a church? Did it make you uncomfortable? Why, or why not? At what point would you complain, or refuse to go into the building in question?

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Jim Downey's picture

No problems for me.

I do have to go to a church in order to vote - it's in one of their classroom areas, not part of a sanctuary. Doesn't bother me in the slightest, but I also understand why it may tweak some people. There have been studies done indicating that where we vote does influence how we vote - but the same is true of schools, VFW halls, et cetera. I figure it all washes out in the aggregate.

Your principles about who you work for are pretty much mine as well, since I am also a small business owner who has to deal with these issues, just fwiw.

Jim Downey

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